Money can't buy brains reason #4729943 (updated)

"Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero" (sampsonite24) 06/26/2018 at 12:36 • Filed to: None

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Thats a former coworker of mine who wants to buy a brand new softtail slim as his first bike...not just his first Harley, but his first ever motocycle...I just can’t even right now.

And there it is...the meathead "I don't wanna get bored of something small and cheap" oy vey

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 12:43

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Tell him to get a Ducati Monster like AMG tech.  Also tell him to up his health insurance limits.

bob and john > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 12:44

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go ahead. let him. just remind him of this when he bitches that its too heavy or puts it into a wall :D

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 12:44

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Not to be harsh, just une motionally realistic but if he goes ahead depsite your advice   convince him to sign up as an organ donor at the very least.

atfsgeoff > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 12:44

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Hey, it’s his money. If he wants new he can get new. Tell him to invest a few hundred bucks in crash bars, he’ll thank you later.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > bob and john 06/26/2018 at 12:50

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oh i plan on it if it ever happens. hes the type of person who talks a lot but never goes through with it

E90M3 > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 12:50

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~19k budget, and no brains? Hmmmm

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 12:51

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Offer to buy it off of him after he has a slide. And remind him that it loses all its value after even just a  tip over. Meanwhile a ninja with scratched fairings and a bit of tearing on the seat is just like every other ninja.

Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 12:53

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I think even the little Sportster is too much for an absolute beginner. I tell everyone who asks to just buy a Buell Blast. Ride it for six months and sell it for what you paid. They are somewhat comfortable and are easy to pick up off the road. 

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > E90M3 06/26/2018 at 12:56

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only 210  dollars a month!?! youd be stupid NOT to take that deal!

RutRut > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 12:57

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I guess I don’t really get the big deal, the new guy with a $18k Harley is probably significantly better off than the guy on a beat to death $5k liter bike or even 600 * whatever your preferred acronym is*. It’s heavy but it also isn’t crazy fast and has a fairly low seating position. 

nermal > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 13:04

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Tell him to look at a new leader bike instead. Modern ones have all the fancy electronic gizmos to keep you safe. ABS, traction control, wheelie control, launch control, etc.

bob and john > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 13:10

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...buy your second bike first? who the fuck says that?!

Sovande > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 13:16

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Maybe he'll do great with the bike, care for it very well, ride it responsibly and live a long a happy life anchored by the decision to throw caution to the wind and spend his money on the things he enjoys. 

fintail > E90M3 06/26/2018 at 13:19

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At least it has nannies to try to keep you in line. The HD is like a bus with 2 wheels and no doors .

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > bob and john 06/26/2018 at 13:20

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clearly hes never read one of your beginner bike articles, or any of Mr. Regular’s bike reviews

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 06/26/2018 at 13:35

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First time riders should spend some quality time on RENTAL bikes, if at all possible, but unfortunately it isn’t in all areas.

Same rationale as buying used first... only even more temporary, and more versatile in being able to rent various different types of bikes.

Liking the stats and the style of a bike is not a guarantee that one will like riding or owning that bike... especially if it doesn’t fit the rider, or the riding style.

I loved my Honda Hawk GT. Absolutely great little bike... eventually, I didn’t ride it as much because it was too small, and the ergos just a bit too tight for me to be comfortable, and not almost banging my elbows on my knees when trying to ride more purposefully.

I’m 6'2", and i t has been another ten years since I frequently rode a bike, and I have been at a desk job since then... so I figure sport bikes are probably outside of the realm for me... and I am not a big fan of big adventure bikes.

Sport touring bikes are all but DEAD and GONE.

Full-dress tourers, traditional feet-forward cruisers, factory-Cafe-wannabe-customs, and retro-naked sport standards are about all that is left.

I don’t plan on riding cross country, so I don’t need built-on luggage, but some soft bags on occaision might be nice.

Most feet-forward cruisers are ancient tech, and all-style, no handling substance. I might as well buy something fun with four wheels.

The factory-cafe stuff, like BMW R-NineT and others are nice, but the ergos aren’t much more forgiving than a faired street-sport bike, and again, usually for someone not as tall or big as I am, just as I was too big for that Hawk GT.

And very little of it, aside from the Yamaha Triples, are nice bikes at 800-900ccs of displacement and moderate power. Enough to be quick and a bit fast, but not trying to kill anyone who dares twist the throttle.

Nice bikes tend to be above 12 grand, and above 1200cc, and above 120 horsepower.... OK, but not great for a beginner, and maybe a bit of a handful for someone getting back on a motorcycle after a few years.

Bikes like Honda VFR1200, BMW K1200R-Sport or R1100S , Moto Guzzi V11 LeMans, and such are discontinued. Ducati XDiavel is interesting, as a cruiser it is new-think and appears to actually be able to handle well, even with feet-forward... but it is very powerful, and very expensive, even though it is very cool.

Most bikes in the 650-999cc range are pared-down budget models of other bikes, and by being budget bikes... components like suspension quality, design, calibration , tire sizes, and build quality are usually the corners that get cut.

Indian Scout and Scout 60 look interesting, with good power, and the traditional looks aren’t bad... but I wonder about braking and handling on 16" balloon tires, thin forks, short shocks, and a single front brake. I would be more interested in 17" moderately wide road tires on modern wheels, substantial USD forks and robust dual front brakes, and rear shocks that wouldn’t be bottomed out with static sag when I sit on the saddle.

And when looking at used... if it isn’t a sport bike, it is H-D or metric-cruiser. VERY little else is commonly found on classified ads, or dealerships... interesting bikes are rare in the first place, and are KEPT by their owners once purchased.

I am not sure what, other than high-riding adventure bikes, or traditional old chrome-monster cruisers  that most 40-60yo guys are riding... and I am not into those.

Dru > E90M3 06/26/2018 at 14:13

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SHUT UP AND TAKE (A LOT OF) MY MONEY.